I try to keep my posts to once a day, but I'm tilting so hard right now that I need to spit this out right away so that you get the full effect of how I'm feeling right now. Here's how I went out of the Mookie just now:
Full Tilt Poker Game #4717596141: The Mookie (35293529), Table 5 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:46:46 ET - 2008/01/02
Seat 1: Buckeyes22 (9,080)
Seat 2: mclarich (5,340)
Seat 3: KngofKngs (3,085)
Seat 4: Donkette (4,943)
Seat 6: TheCloserX5 (15,600)
Seat 7: bayne_s (18,205)
Seat 8: swimmom95 (180), is sitting out
Seat 9: UnTiltable15 (7,377)
Buckeyes22 antes 25
mclarich antes 25
KngofKngs antes 25
Donkette antes 25
TheCloserX5 antes 25
bayne_s antes 25
swimmom95 antes 25
UnTiltable15 antes 25
mclarich posts the small blind of 120
KngofKngs posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mclarich [Ac 3h]
Buckeyes22 raises to 975
mclarich has 15 seconds left to act
mclarich raises to 2,160
Buckeyes22 calls 1,185
I know that A3 is not a solid hand. One word: resteal.
*** FLOP *** [Td Kh Qc]
mclarich has 15 seconds left to act
mclarich bets 3,155, and is all in
I can't fold now, and considering what's I've done so far (reraise, then push a coordinated flop), any DECENT poker player would have to fold the majority of hands.
Buckeyes22 calls 3,155
mclarich shows [Ac 3h]
Buckeyes22 shows [Ks 8c]
Seriously? TP8K is gold I guess. But who the fuck calls a reraise with K8o? Then calls half their stack on that board with K8?
*** TURN *** [Td Kh Qc] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [Td Kh Qc 6s] [8s]
mclarich shows Ace King high
Buckeyes22 shows two pair, Kings and Eights
Buckeyes22 wins the pot (11,070) with two pair, Kings and Eights
mclarich stands up
If I made a mistake, it's that I didn't give him credit for a solid hand, but I honestly didn't think he had one. I really thought I could push him off of the hand. I was watching his table earlier when he called Hoy's push on a K high board with nothing but the nut flush draw
. I suppose I can check-fold that board if I want to play pussy-ass weak poker, but again, I gave him too much credit for being a solid player.
Then, he adds this to fuel my rage even more:
mclarich (Observer): lol
Buckeyes22: re-raise w/ a3??????
mclarich (Observer): K8
mclarich (Observer): you call with K8?
Buckeyes22: u r quiet re-raising w/ that garbage
mclarich (Observer): seriously?
Buckeyes22: seriously pushing w/ no pair/
mclarich (Observer): seriously calling a reraise with K8 and
then thinking TP bad kicker is good on that board?
mclarich (Observer): you have MAD psychic skills
mclarich (Observer): or a luckbox
mclarich (Observer): still not sure which
Buckeyes22: or thought u were a donk
Buckeyes22: looks like i was correct
Buckeyes22: if it makes u feel better, i thought i was beat
when i called
mclarich (Observer): you thought you were beat and STILL
Mookman5 (Observer): keep it up buddy
Buckeyes22: some guy shamed me
Buckeyes22: for calling re-rasie w/ K8
Buckeyes22: what do u think?
Mookman5 (Observer): i play Q6 and push
Mookman5 (Observer): any 2 cards can win
mclarich (Observer): please come by my blog tomorrow
Buckeyes22: i raised from button
Mookman5 (Observer): i am sure you had enough chips to
make the call
Dealer: Donkette has 15 seconds left to act
mclarich (Observer): justanotherdonkey.blogspot.com
mclarich (Observer): i won't bother the rest of the table with this
mclarich (Observer): gl all
Buckeyes22: get over it
Mookman5 (Observer): i think im going to try donk the madness
Mookman5 (Observer): you keep ballin'
Mookman5 (Observer): that guy might talk %@ about you in
his blog no one cares about or reads, look out
Buckeyes22: i had the best hand on flop
Buckeyes22: and he shamed me for call
Buckeyes22: i don't get some people
Buckeyes22: his move didn't pay off
He chastises me for playing A3 like I did when he didn't consider anything other than the fact that he hit top pair (cue Fuel's "TP is gold" comment right about now). The only way I'm winning that pot is by betting, and by reraising then making the ONLY bet I can make, I'd venture to say that at least 80% of the people playing the Mookie would fold that, if not fold it preflop. I just happened to run into one of the 20% who couldn't.
Then, later, he says that he thought he was beat when he called! So, apparently, he gave me credit for having a better hand than him and wanted to donate half his stack to me? I'm really supposed to believe that? How do you even begin to think you can win consistently as a poker player if you're willing to call off half your stack WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE BEAT! He later says he had the best hand on the flop, yet admitted right before that to not thinking that when he made the call!
Honestly, I mean no ill will towards Buckeyes22 personally; I've made a pointed attempt to refrain from any name calling or slander towards him as a person because that's not what this is about. I'm sure he's a great guy in real life. But Buckeyes, if you are reading this blog, do you still think you made a great play? Is it not entirely possible that I have any one of these hands: AA, AK, KK, QQ, KQ, KJ, AJ, KT, TT? That's 9 hands right there that beat you that are entirely possible considering my action. If you want to narrow your thinking to "I had top pair" and "you only had A3" then I can GUARANTEE you that the only way you will win any of these blogger tournaments is by relying on luck, not poker skills. If you actually think about poker critically, you should be able to see that, in the long run, folding K8 to a reraise preflop will serve you better than hoping to hit a flop & hoping that you are ahead, or worse, calling when you think you're behind because you want to confirm or because you hope you'll suckout. Ignore what I actually had and think about how I played the hand, and tell me that you still think I played the hand poorly.
I'm open to any and all criticism on this hand, because I'm willing to take it equally as much as I dish it out. Fault me for trying to bluff a call station, or fault me for trying to bluff or resteal at the wrong time, I'll understand that. But I think I've layed out a pretty good argument justifying why I played the hand that way. I've lost games going out on a bluff, and if I think the situation is right, I'll do it again; I have no problem with the outcome because I knew it was a risk going into it. If he would've said "I put you on a steal or a bluff" then all the more credit to him for somehow coming to that conclusion. But to criticize MY play when you can't see just how horrible YOUR play was? No fuckin way.
EDIT: I'm writing this about an hour later, after I calmed myself down by destroying it on Guitar Hero III. I do realize I made some mistakes on the play, namely A) trying to resteal without considering the possibility that Buckeyes may actually have been on a hand and B) not reraising enough to induce a fold. I'm not concerned with A as much, since I think trying to resteal in that position, against a raise like that, is merited. However, I needed to reraise more, either 3-4x the BB, or even push if I don't think he has a hand. Despite his holding, I gave him odds to call. I tried to represent a strong hand, but did so in a poor manner, and ended up going out on a pure bluff.
I don't think that admission takes away from the fact that Buckeyes played the hand poorly himself, or that I made the play not because I had the best hand but because I thought I could induce a fold. I don't blame anyone but me for the play, and making a post like this really is out of my character. I won't delete it because I don't think out of line, and it's good to keep so that I can go back & read this at a later time. I won't take back anything I've said, but with a clearer mind, I can at least admit that the way I tried to represent my hand wasn't played as well as I could have.