Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Do You Make This Call?

It's time for another post showing how I played a hand horribly! The truth is, very rarely am I going to showdown with TP no kicker but on this hand, something didn't make sense to me and I felt that I had the best hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6969913152: Table Hauck - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:58:05 ET - 2008/06/25
Seat 1: bradwcryeye ($14.50)
Seat 2: becks911 ($192.45)
Seat 3: 080888000 ($100)
Seat 4: KonstantienOpel ($98.50)
Seat 5: ccsantagado ($30.40)
Seat 6: mclarich ($98.10)
Seat 7: Atari151 ($70.95)
Seat 8: mazzler ($104.40)
Seat 9: sinsincity ($64.95)
sinsincity posts the small blind of $0.50
bradwcryeye posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mclarich [Kh Th]
becks911 folds
080888000 folds
KonstantienOpel folds
ccsantagado folds
mclarich raises to $3.50
Atari151 folds
mazzler folds
sinsincity calls $3
bradwcryeye folds

I know KT is not the strongest hand, but it had been a pretty weak table, and I felt that if I didn't win the blinds outright, I'd be in position; if the CO or button were either 3betting or folding. I get a caller in the SB. I had no information on the SB but I figured the smooth call discounted most of the top hands.

*** FLOP *** [Ks Jc 4s]
sinsincity checks
mclarich bets $5
sinsincity raises to $15
mclarich calls $10

Just calling the reraise is probably a mistake - in most cases, I'm either way behind or my K is good, but here's why I called. The PF calls makes AA, KK or AK very unlikely. I'm behind KQ but I don't really see KQ check-raising this flop. If I'm beat, it's either KJ, JJ, or 44. I could also be up against some kind of draw. I call to see how the turn plays out, but I can also understand the argument for folding here.

*** TURN *** [Ks Jc 4s] [Jh]
sinsincity bets $18
mclarich calls $18

The J on the turn is kind of a good card for me since it makes JJ less likely. I'm beginning to think I'm up against a draw. 44 is still a possibility, and KJ is as well.

*** RIVER *** [Ks Jc 4s Jh] [Tc]
sinsincity bets $28.45, and is all in
mclarich has 15 seconds left to act
mclarich calls $28.45

Basically a crying call. If I'm beat, then I'm the donk who calls down with TPNK, but I'm getting 3.5:1 odds. I've come this far, don't see how I can fold for $28 more.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
sinsincity shows [6d Ad] a pair of Jacks
mclarich shows [Kh Th] two pair, Kings and Jacks
mclarich wins the pot ($127.90) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
sinsincity is sitting out

Of course, I can also beat a complete bluff. Most of the time I know I'm beat and I'm laying this hand down on the flop. I also should mention that the villain was betting really quickly, which made me think it was more of a semi-bluff. If any straight or spade comes on the turn or river, I probably fold. If the villain has a bigger stack, I probably fold to a bigger bet.

Anyways, this definitely did not sit well with sinsincity, and made for some fun remarks afterwards:

sinsincity: oh my gosh
sinsincity: unreal read...cant imagine what you possibly put me on there...
sinsincity: K10 preflop/postflop/turn/river nuts....HAHAHAHA
sinsincity: enjoy each other's company

It even spilled over to the other table I was on:

Full Tilt Poker Game #6969969753: Table Dronberger - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:02:53 ET - 2008/06/25
Seat 1: siouxtllmn ($28.35)
Seat 2: Dryburg ($107.75)
Seat 3: briancheng ($104)
Seat 4: dfense072 ($99.50)
Seat 5: Goso ($39.90)
Seat 6: KJACK10 ($100.90)
Seat 7: xxNINO BROWNxx ($93.60)
Seat 8: 080888000 ($123.80)
Seat 9: mclarich ($100)
080888000 posts the small blind of $0.50
mclarich posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mclarich [9d Qc]
siouxtllmn raises to $2
Dryburg folds
briancheng has 15 seconds left to act
briancheng folds
dfense072 folds
Goso folds
KJACK10 folds
xxNINO BROWNxx raises to $7.50
080888000 folds
mclarich folds
siouxtllmn calls $5.50
*** FLOP *** [Td 5s 7d]
siouxtllmn checks
xxNINO BROWNxx bets $86.10, and is all in
siouxtllmn calls $20.85, and is all in
xxNINO BROWNxx shows [Qh Ah]
siouxtllmn shows [Ts Tc]
Uncalled bet of $65.25 returned to xxNINO BROWNxx
*** TURN *** [Td 5s 7d] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [Td 5s 7d 3s] [5d]
xxNINO BROWNxx shows a pair of Fives
siouxtllmn shows a full house, Tens full of Fives
siouxtllmn wins the pot ($55.30) with a full house, Tens full of Fives
sinsincity (Observer): mclarich is uber rock...only willing to play K10 all the way until the end for his stack...

Full Tilt Poker Game #6969979037: Table Dronberger - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:03:40 ET - 2008/06/25
Seat 1: siouxtllmn ($55.30)
Seat 2: Dryburg ($107.75)
Seat 3: briancheng ($104)
Seat 4: dfense072 ($99.50)
Seat 5: Goso ($39.90)
Seat 6: KJACK10 ($100.90)
Seat 7: xxNINO BROWNxx ($65.25)
Seat 8: 080888000 ($123.30)
Seat 9: mclarich ($99)
mclarich posts the small blind of $0.50
siouxtllmn posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mclarich [6h Jh]
Dryburg folds
briancheng folds
sinsincity (Observer): lol
dfense072 folds
Goso folds
KJACK10 folds
xxNINO BROWNxx calls $1
080888000 folds
sinsincity (Observer): donk puke is a call station
sinsincity (Observer): just a little fyi for the game

mclarich folds
siouxtllmn checks
*** FLOP *** [Ad Ks 6d]
siouxtllmn checks
xxNINO BROWNxx checks
*** TURN *** [Ad Ks 6d] [4s]
siouxtllmn checks
xxNINO BROWNxx checks
*** RIVER *** [Ad Ks 6d 4s] [7h]
siouxtllmn has 15 seconds left to act
sinsincity (Observer): bet, call down reraise/and another 2 bullets with top pair 10 kicker...lol
siouxtllmn checks
xxNINO BROWNxx bets $2.50
siouxtllmn folds
Uncalled bet of $2.50 returned to xxNINO BROWNxx
xxNINO BROWNxx mucks
xxNINO BROWNxx wins the pot ($2.40)

Full Tilt Poker Game #6969990209: Table Dronberger - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:04:37 ET - 2008/06/25
Seat 1: siouxtllmn ($54.30)
Seat 2: Dryburg ($107.75)
Seat 3: briancheng ($104)
Seat 4: dfense072 ($99.50)
Seat 5: Goso ($39.90)
Seat 6: KJACK10 ($100.90)
Seat 7: xxNINO BROWNxx ($66.65)
Seat 8: 080888000 ($123.30)
Seat 9: mclarich ($98.50)
siouxtllmn posts the small blind of $0.50
Dryburg posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mclarich [6h Th]
mclarich: but you're not bitter that I picked off your bluff, right?
briancheng folds
dfense072 folds
Goso folds
KJACK10 folds
xxNINO BROWNxx calls $1
080888000 calls $1
mclarich folds
mclarich: or do you always follow around the person who just felted you
siouxtllmn calls $0.50
Dryburg checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 9c 3d]
siouxtllmn checks
Dryburg checks
xxNINO BROWNxx bets $4
080888000 folds
siouxtllmn folds
Dryburg folds
Uncalled bet of $4 returned to xxNINO BROWNxx
xxNINO BROWNxx mucks
xxNINO BROWNxx wins the pot ($3.80)

Despite what my recently posted hand histories may show, I'm feeling a bit better about my cash game play lately. I'm still learning how to fold overpairs to the board; I've had a couple of unnecessary feltings with JJ vs AA. Hopefully I'll get some hand histories up of hands I'm a bit more proud of.

3 Comments:

At June 26, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Blogger OhCaptain said...

Nice felting. Good read.

 
At June 26, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Blogger noldmax said...

Matt, I can't see myself making the calls that you did in this hand. On the turn and river, you call, knowing that the only hands you beat are busted draws and bluffs. So, if any spade, A, or 9 falls, you are folding there too, right? And on top of that, it seems that you have no knowledge about your opponent's style. It just seems like you're wishfully hoping for a perfect storm - the draws miss AND your opponent doesn't have you beat.

I would fold, either after the flop c-raise, or to the turn bet. I see a lot of villains check-raise a C-better to try to take a pot down on the flop, so you can justify the call on the flop, thinking your opponent might have been trying to take it away. But when he fires again on the turn, you have to give him more credit.

Having said all of that, it seems worth it in the end, if only to elicit a wonderful tilt-rant.

 
At June 26, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Blogger lj said...

LOL that's awesome!!! i love how he clearly doesn't question his pure bluff on a very drawy board. when the turn doesn't help either a straight draw or make the flush i think i probably raise him and get it all in. hard to put him on a J there when he raised the flop. if i'm gonna go w/ tpmk i think i want to make him pay for that last card.

just goes to show that sometimes you should be comfortable with your read and go with it.

 

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